Fediverse Futures - Privacy Community
A video exploring the brief history of scheduling posts as a feature on Mastodon, in which ways it has been implemented, and progress being made to implement it. [YouTube Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTv3SZT7ao)

Friendica 2022.12 released – friendica
Tobias | 20. December 2022 We are very happy to announce the avail-ability of the new stable version of Friendica. Wrapping up the sprint from the 2022.10 release of Friendica we closed 73 filed issues and had almost 300 pull requests by 19 contributors.

Very interesting article tooted by author [Alek Tarkowski](https://social.coop/@tarkowski@101010.pl/109490312338495753)

Contribute to Fediverse curated lists of the Delightful Club
The Fediverse going mainstream is ablaze with new developer activities. Many new projects are starting. I am co-maintaining 3 lists, part of the [delightful project](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful) (this is similar to Github Awesome lists, but only for FOSS, Open Data and Open Science, and without sponsored ads) and can need your help to keep the lists up-to-date. Find a new project or an entry that needs updating? Please PR to one of the following repositories: - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-clients - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-activitypub-development The apps and ActivityPub resources from these lists will be hand-picked for inclusion in [Fediverse Party](https://fediverse.party) website. And the lists are auto-compiled into the [Delightful Club](https://delightful.club) website. If you want to become part of the Delightful Club and maintain a sub-list on a subject of your choice, then [file an issue](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful/issues) to the top-level ist.

Not sure why, but I feel this might be related to the Fediverse :)

So how does the fediverse work in regards to lemmy?
Who else do they federation with?

The activity of the SocialHub community, like all other 'fediverse-substrate' bodies, has waned. From an active community to just a forum. Now a decision has to be made for the future of SocialHub. The options are stopping, be just a forum, or revitalize a vibrant community. The last option needs people willing and committed to do so. To step up for the sake of Fediverse Futures.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/364580 > The EU via their Horizons Europe program, the [Next Generation Internet](https://ngi.eu) (where e.g. NLnet are associated) (NGI Initiative) are the biggest funders of the [free software projects](https://delightful.club/delightful-fediverse-apps/) that comprise the fedi. Without their support fedi wouldn't be what it is now. > > The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) recently [launched a pilot](https://edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-releases/2022/edps-launches-pilot-phase-two-social-media_en) to have both a Peertube and Mastodon instance on the Fediverse, hashtagged #EUVideo and #EUVoice respectively. On these servers official European Commission related institutions as well as individuals working at the EC can have their accounts. > > This recognition of the Fediverse and the interest that exists in entering our decentralized social networking environment is an important development. With success of the pilot there will undoubtedly be a follow-up and more initiatives to come. First results until now is that the parties that 'test the waters' are very happy on the kinds of interactions and quality of discussions they encounter on the Fediverse. > > That is no wonder, of course. Fediverse offers **social networking** that is more personal and friendly, than corporate social media which is about 'broadcasting' and influencing. > > Current pilot can be a ramp up to something much bigger: > > #### Fediverse: United in Diversity > > A social networking technology where _everyone_ can find their place and participate, that is not controlled by Big Tech and commercial corporate interests. For the European Commission there is the opportunity to passionately put their support behind fostering **"The European Take On Social Networking"**. Fediverse aligns to the NGI Initiative who envision an [Internet for Humans](https://www.ngi.eu/about/). > > ##### How you can help > > To progress towards this vision it is important for the EU/EC pilot to be a success. As fedizen you can help with this. Here are a couple of ways to offer your support: > > → **Follow, boost, favourite the [EUVoice accounts](https://social.network.europa.eu/explore) on Mastodon and [EUVideo](https://tube.network.europa.eu/videos/overview) Peertube videos.** > > - These early adopter accounts are _still learning_ how the Fediverse works, what the culture is and e.g. how we value accessibility and image captions. You can help them discover. > - Many accounts are still Twitter bridges and broadcast only. Some others respond and interact with fedizens, notably [@EC_OSPO](https://social.network.europa.eu/@EC_OSPO), [@EDPS](https://social.network.europa.eu/@EDPS) and [@EC_NGI](https://social.network.europa.eu/@EC_NGI). The operators of the Twitter bridges don't know what the value of Fediverse is to them, and if they should spend time with us. All reactions by us are monitored, so we can help them here. > - There are people giving highly toxic reactions to almost any EC-related toot. There are many things to be critical about. Politics is about the discussion of these issues, and good arguments help more than toxicity. Here we have opportunity to show we are different than the cesspit that Twitter is. > - Do not expect too much, too soon. There is a complex organization structure at the EC, and given the politically sensitive nature all communications are weighed carefully and undergo multiple levels of approval. Plans move slowly, but they are in motion. > > → **Let's give the fedi accounts more followers than they have on Twitter, if possible.** > > - For instance the [Director General of Informatics at DG DIGIT](https://social.network.europa.eu/users/EC_DIGIT_director_general), Veronica Gaffey, has 191 fedi followers in short time, while [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/gaffey_veronica) she has 279 followers. > > → **If you are on Twitter, then help encourage EC institutions to also have an account on EUVoice.** > > - A notable example is the [European Parliament](https://twitter.com/euparl_en). Respond to their tweets and name-drop the fedi as THE place to be. > > → **We are gathering a group of volunteers on [SocialHub](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks) that can [help train EC representatives](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/looking-for-volunteers-organize-a-fediverse-training-for-eu-representatives/2437) in how to use the Fediverse effectively and understand its culture.** > > - The activities we do here, starting later this year, stand to benefit any administration or institution interested to join the Fediverse, not just EU representatives. > > --- > > This post is also [cross-posted](https://discuss.coding.social/t/help-make-the-european-commission-euvoice-and-euvideo-pilot-a-success/101) to the [Social Coding Movement](https://coding.social) that is dedicated among others to establish a Peopleverse on top of the fedi. Social Coding is not yet officially launched.

And also tooted in https://mastodon.social/@humanetech/108633314902525240

Federated, free, and/or open source software will not be chosen over proprietary software unless they overcome this hurdle.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/346124 > # Innovation requires resources > Innovation happens wherever we put our efforts towards. The space race and the technologies it gave us is an example. Finding ways of reducing the cost of production of commodities is another. The green transition is another example. > > These are the bounds that determine how innovation happens in federated social networks. They will only innovate when there is enough effort put towards them. Beyond technical innovation (perhaps in a TOR kind-of-network way, or in a Git kind-of-version-control way), a full-fledged piece of software that is effective and attractive enough for people to use, takes resources. > > These resources largely refer to labor power. Remember, we're not talking about maintenance costs, but development costs. Programmers require money to survive. > > # FLOSS is no exception > > Yes, FLOSS software can survive with volunteers, but even those volunteers have to pay their bills. Yes, the internet plus (as Bruce Schneier defines it), copyleft licenses, and already-existing technical know-how reduce the cost of production, but the costs are there nonetheless. Someone needs to do the work. > > I think about open source projects I admire. Diaspora received exceptional funding, relative to its goals. Signal was heavily funded by donations. Element has a business model that lets them work towards improving Matrix. Linux has many companies that depend on it and are able to finance innovation on it. > > This argument, applied to Lemmy, makes me wonder. How do Nutomic and Dessalines handle it? Are they precious exceptions that drive Lemmy forward because of their personal values and their willingness to use their technical know-how for the development of this platform? Will Lemmy thrive without them? > > This brings me to another point: FLOSS and federated software has the advantage that many people are willing to spend their time working towards laudable goals. They are not motivated by profit as much as improving humanity. > > # FLOSS has a problem that others systematically address: making things attractive > > The issue with FLOSS projects is that they mainly respond to thought-out worldviews. That is, people are willing to engage with this kind of software because of logical reasons (*logos*, as Aristotle and those guys would call it). It is rarer to have people engage with FLOSS and federated software because of emotions (*pathos*). > > Unfortunately for humans, we are emotional creatures. I get put off by how unattractive the Free Software Foundation's website is, despite loving the values that the foundation stands for. I get put off by using terminals, despite the fact that plenty of FLOSS software does not have GUIs. I hate Thunderbird's calendar, despite using it daily. > > Companies with investors and FLOSS projects with enough funding know this and therefore pay graphical designers, user experience experts, and sometimes market researchers to make products attractive. This takes money. > > # Conclusion > > And that brings us back to my point: for free software to be *chosen* by most people, it has to have enough labor behind it to make it both effective and attractive. This is the hurdle it needs to be overcome. > > ## Notes on my sources > > These are reflections that arose after a series of conversations with a friend who works at an 'innovation office'. His job is explicitly to design an 'innovation ecosystem', which attempts to create innovation with minimal investment. Everyone at that office knows this is bullshit. Innovation rarely comes without money. Therefore, they basically look for investors for projects that don't have enough money. That's it. > > This view, that innovation requires investment, is shared by Anwar Shaikh and classical economics. > > However, it's more complicated with the research behind innovation. > > Let's take 'platforms of innovation'. For example, cosmopolitan cities, the internet, and universities are hubs of innovation. However, it's a mistake to think that these are 'neutral' in terms of costs. All of them require operational costs. All of them imply costs of technical training. Even here, there are costs that cannot be ignored. > > If we look at mission-oriented innovation, the situation becomes clearer. Universities doing cancer-related research, States doing green energy-related research, or companies doing market-related research all clearly align with the argument I made above. > > Finally, it's perfectly possible that the argument I made above is not at all original. In fact, I doubt it is. If anything, it could be similar to a high-school student discovering their own proof of the pythagorean theorem: it's not new for the community of knowers who already know it, but it's new from the point of view of the student. At least I get to share this with you and hear your thoughts about it. > > Oh, and given that Lemmy doesn't have terms of service yet, I wanted to make sure I could share this in the future. I licensed it under a [Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/). Weird. I know. Oh well. At least you get to share it without fear!

Forge Federation Needs Your Help 🤗 🚀 Join the [forge federation](https://matrix.to/#/#general-forgefed:matrix.batsense.net) matrix chatroom, or the (less active) [gitea federation](https://matrix.to/#/#gitea-federation-chat:matrix.org) room.

!["This is fine" meme. First frame: "lol, as if we need more social tech". Second frame: "This is fine. They are not fedi".](https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3bdfe388-b637-48da-b5d4-78b3e33a0a8d.jpeg)

Note: Responses on cross-posted threads may be missed. The best way to indicate your interest is to reply to the SocialHub forum topic, or alternatively on the [Fediverse announcement here](https://mastodon.social/@humanetech/108344611621798508).

Content mirroring will be a big problem
Few days ago I discovered that any time you follow a fediverse account on a different instance than your one, the server you are on mirrors the original content of any toot/post, and I think this is a huge issue, because then every Fediverse server/instance could quickly get overloaded from contents from other servers! Am I right? I've always thought that toots/posts from other instances were just "empty shells" retrieving the content on demand.

Do we have a need for a good **#Botiquette** that can also be enforced or encouraged by the various social apps of the Fediverse? What are your ideas and considerations? Add them to the referenced Fediverse Futures SocialHub topic if you want them to be part of technical elaboration, if/when it comes to that. See also my toot at: https://mastodon.social/@humanetech/108225431329625395

How can we develop free software sustainably? After discussion on Mastodon, I found these criteria were most wanted by the community that was willing to engage me there: - Accessibility of any scheme should match or even be greater than the accessibility of contributing to free software is today. - Decentralization of decision making. Any scheme shouldn't require loyalty to some organization, person or persons. - Independence of Big Tech. Any scheme should work with or without the consent of Big Tech.

I recently started thinking again about the [Social knowledge fabrics](https://nerdica.net/display/44b525e5-cb53ee6497fa0339-968ad293) discussion, and it seems to me that one of the biggest obstacles for fedi to become one is the following. The things we refer to as "threads" are actually "branches of a tree". You have a trunk, basically the whole fedi, each post is a branch, each branch can itself ramify into branches, but all the branches stay independent. It would be useful if a discussion branch was not only shaped like a thread, but also had the usefulness of one : sewing, or tying together different discussion topics. Sometimes I think again about an old discussion when participating in a new one, and so I cite it. But this message is still fundamentally part of the new discussion, while the newly established link should be of equal interest to participants of both threads. What we miss is for that message to be part of both conversations, or a clear way to automatically signify to both threads that something new happens. Of course, this can be done by hand, writing a comment in each cited branch to point to the new one. But we won't remeber to do that everytime, or we will not want to "necrobump", or we just don't want to make the extra effort. So it would be interesting if the relations were established automatically. For example the way I proposed for Friendica's quote-shares in the linked URL, or the way GitHub handles issue that cite each other. Maybe two old topics will come to know about each other that way, effectively being sewed by the new thread.

The lack of deeper integrations between different app types and the federated identity issue (every instance their own signup and user acccount) form significant barrier to widespread collaboration is my general observation. For instance in any well-received toot with a link to a [SocialHub](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks) forum topic on average no one takes the effort to respond on SocialHub. Mostly the discussion remains microblogging, and then it sinks into history when activity peters out. The insights and collective knowledge isn't gathered and lost.

Elementary my dear Watson, namely ...

On the new [Discuss Social Coding](https://discuss.coding.social) (that has not officially launched yet) I posted some notes on a particular challenge the fedi imho faces, that hampers adoption and poses growing risks in the future if not dealt with appropriately. The notes leave a lot of things I've been looking deeper into unmentioned, but you may find them interesting nonetheless.

Topological comment sorting
EDIT: More precise titles. The way we sort comments on lemmy today is through giving everyone the ability to up and downvote any comment. You upvote comments you want to be more visible and downvote comments you want to have less visibility. I think ranking comments are great if some opinions contribute more. Imagine the value of a comment can be determined before voting. Perhaps with a panel of judges. With rankings -10 to 10 where -10 is dangerous misinformation, 0 has no meaningful contribution and 10 is perhaps mindblowingly enlightening or empowering. # Example of lemmy style sorting Lets say a post is submitted. On the first day, it received the comments with a judges score (user, score): (monkey, 8), (zebra, -2), (horse, 5), (panda, 3), (rhino, 3). A post get the most visibility the first day. Therefore, those who post early can get a lot of votes. However on the second day, one user submitted the comment: (Flower, 9) A this point in time the post doesnt have that many voters. And the top comments has increased visibility, so for every vote flower gains, the top comment might have received another. So we end up with the final ranking: Monkey, horse, panda, flower, rhino, zebra. So it ends up only ranking similar to panda and rhino even though the score was much higher. There was a mismatch between votes and score. # Solution, the topoligical sort We should concider moving away from voting on comments individually to voting comparatively. Where you perhaps determine the most valuable comment out of a selection. Then a topological sort can put the best comment on top. So even if flower is late to the party, their insight is still spread.

This video is meant moreso to serve as a pitch to those who are already interested in promoting these values. The focus is really on giving more organization to free culture projects and initiatives. Really what’s needed more than anything else is drive, but if you have any skills or projects you’d like to share, let us know. If PeerTube isn't working, the video is also hosted on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyjdzkZZOHk

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/173958 [@deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/u/deadsuperhero) wonderful article highlights many points that need to be explored, challenges to be tackled, for healthy [Fediverse Futures](https://lemmy.ml/c/fediversefutures) ... > Over the years, I've been studying a handful of different fediverse platforms that bring a lot of interesting concepts to the table. > > As someone that has studied and [reported on](https://wedistribute.org/) the developments of these various systems, I've decided to put together a summary of things I'd like to one day put into my own federated platform, should I ever develop enough brainpower to actually develop one.

Starting with the posted link and in more recent discussions of [Standardising on ActivityPub Groups](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/standardizing-on-activitypub-groups/1984/28) I have been advocating for some time to make "Community" a native concept of the Fediverse. Something that better represents communities in the real world: groups and individuals with intricate social relationships between them. Why? The following [toot by @cicatriz_jdr](https://myasstodon.xyz/@cicatriz_jdr/107782488647156937) provides one reason: ![Nerdy man in shirt with beer in hand on a party explains the Fediverse to a woman.](https://files.mastodon.social/cache/media_attachments/files/107/782/488/692/679/158/small/7ad5ffeb1c32dc9e.jpeg) _**""... and these 'instances' are all on separate servers, so it's totally decentralized. but posts on one instance 'federate' with other instances, except when they don't, which basically half the time. now here's where it gets tricky...""**_ And the [follow-up by @throwawaygiraffoid](https://mastodon.social/@throwawaygiraffoid/107784097243651979) is more hilarious even: _**"THERAPIST: And those ""instances"" are they ""federating"" with us right now?"**_ With a community-native fedi you can avoid talking on the INFRASTRUCTURE level.. ## Fediverse: Peopleverse! ##### _"Yes, the Fediverse is an online world-wide social space where there are numerous communities where you can meet people. They all have different themes and activities and you just join where lies your interest. Or create your own community for your friends and family on whatever has your passion."_

Interesting developments to bring Podcasting domain to the Fediverse. Check it out and add your related resources and/or experiences with the projects.

Federated subscription service
I'm interested in a complimentary federated service for peertube and similar services. One can subscribe to creators and instances. You can't create independent posts, because it is solely made as a subscription service. However you can comment on creations. It is intended as a tool to keep track of creators you are interested in, and have a seamless experience with going from one video to the next and be able to post quick comments. I'm envisioning that this service could be distributed and serverless like Scuttlebutt. That way, there would be no signup process involved. One could then download software/ app for your phone and start adding instances and creators. To comment, one would perhaps need some verification system, like connecting your app to a user to avoid misuse. A service like this would act similar to an federated RSS, but with more flexibility. I believe a service like this would be superior to any subscription solution we have today, that be through RSS, peertube, I believe this would bring a lot of utility to the fediverse. It would make it far easier to develop new federated projects. And it would be a great gateway into the fediverse. It would make it far easier to interact with content which would make the fediverse look more populated and more exciting. If you think this is a good idea, say aye in the comments.

Super Smash FOSS
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/92204 > An open source, smash style fighting game, it could use mascots from foss projects (just like [SuperTuxKart](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperTuxKart) do). > > Since there are some SSB knockoffs being released ([All-Star](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_All-Star_Brawl), [MultiVersus](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiVersus)), why not make one that is actually good? I think it would be pretty cool :)

With [Feneas shutting down](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/important-feneas-federated-networks-association-will-shut-down/2135) the [Fediverse Party](https://fediverse.party) website by [@lightone](https://mastodon.xyz/@lightone) needed a new home, and so too did the 3 ActivityPub watchlists that existed in the repository wiki. I am happy to announce that all of them have been migrated to [Codeberg](https://codeberg.org). With the new and fantastic [Codeberg Pages](https://codeberg.page/) the fediverse.party website is still at the same location. The watchlists however have been migrated to the [delightful project](https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful), so update your bookmarks: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-clients https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-activitypub-development

Federation has potential in a VR-chat-esque game.
from https://lemmy.ml/post/152757/comment/110790

Ideas for federating Lemmy to the Fediverse
In reaction to [Can you follow a PixelFed with a Lemmy account?](https://lemmy.ml/post/75645) I thought it might be interesting to brainstorm how Lemmy could integrate and federate with the broader Fediverse in cool ways 😎 With some random thoughts I'll kick off the brainstorm.. ### With Microblogging apps What are the interactions with apps such as Pleroma and Mastodon? ##### **Search and view Lemmy community profiles** - Profile shows logo and full description of the community - Profile can be followed like any other account ##### **Follow a Lemmy community** - The Follower count of the community increases by 1 - Maybe the Follower count can be clicked on to show where followers are coming from - Lemmy posts appear in your personal timeline - Lemmy comments are part of the toot thread - A toot you add also appears in the Lemmy UI - A Lemmy comment you Like/Favourite counts as an upvote - Boosts attract others to the Lemmy post to interact with ##### **Post a toot URL in a Lemmy post** - If there is no link or image in the toot, the instance logo is shown - If there is no instance logo, then the app logo is shown (e.g. Pleroma) - If there is a link preview, then the link's OpenGraph image is shown - If there is an image, then this image is shown as the Lemmy preview image How does the Lemmy post interact with the toot? Two options: 1. A new toot thread is created under the Lemmy microblogging profile - The original toot URL is inlined as a reference - **Note**: [Quoting the toot text](https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2018/07/cage-the-mastodon/#design-decisions) is discouraged in Mastodon to avoid abuse as [@Liwott points out](https://lemmy.ml/post/75657/comment/69558). Should probably not quote, and just show the additional Lemmy post's title + markdown body. 2. A new branch is added to the existing thread and Lemmy post is a sub-toot of that - Upvotes are Likes/Favourites on the toot How do cross-posts work for these options? - For option 1 a new toot is created under the Profile that matches the cross-posted community - For option 2 there may be a notification sub-toot "cross-posted to [community]" under which a new branch of toots relate to subsequent Lemmy comments ##### **Mentioning a Lemmy community profile in a toot** How do we handle that? Probably we don't want any random fedi account to be able to create Lemmy posts. One option might be to add a separate timeline to communities to support this: "Mentioned across the Fediverse" or something, where you can find all mentions, drill-down in the toot thread and _maybe_ respond from Lemmy. Responding _may_ be a moderator-only feature, as they talk on behalf of the community. ### With Image Media apps Federating with apps such as PixelFed. Do you wanna give a shot at this? Then burn loose below 🚀 ### With Video Streaming apps Federating with apps such as PeerTube and Owncast. Do you wanna give a shot at this? Then burn loose below 🚀 ### With Podcasting apps Federating with apps such as CastaPod. Do you wanna give a shot at this? Then burn loose below 🚀 ### With Event Planning apps Federating with apps such as Mobilizon. Do you wanna give a shot at this? Then burn loose below 🚀 ### With [Your App of Choice](https://git.feneas.org/feneas/fediverse/-/wikis/watchlist-for-activitypub-apps) Go. go. go! 🚀 🚀 🚀

This [SocialHub](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks) topic was inspired by [Forgefriends](https://forgefriends.org) (then called FedeProxy) and constitutes a wild brainstorm for envisioning what could be an entirely new paradigm to softwrare development: **United Software Development**. Exploration of the idea involves looking from a non-technical perspective at all the possible ways in which Decentralization and fediverse standards (ActivityStreams, ActivityPub, Linked Data) can be leveraged to shape this paradigm. Preliminary definition of United Sotware Development is _“Free, libre software development, processes and culture united,. Sustainable, open and accessible to anyone.”_, but I'm sure that can be further improved. [@dachary@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/u/dachary) offers a very enticing look into what "Federated Development" might entail. I highly encourage people to read the SocialHub thread, and am very curious about your musings and thoughts.

## Moderation on the Fediverse Right now when people install federated server instances of any kind that are open for others to join, they take on the job to be the instance admin. When membership grows, they attract additional moderators to help with maintenance and assuring a healthy community. I haven't been admin or mod myself, but AFAIK the moderation work is mostly manual, based on the specific UI administrative features offered by a particular app. Metrics are collected about instance operation, and federated messages come in from members (e.g. `Flag` and `Block`). There's a limited set of moderation measures that can be taken (see e.g. [Mastodon's Moderation docs](https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/moderation/)). The toughests actions that can be taken are to blocklist an entire domain (here's the [list for mastodon.social](https://mastodon.social/about/more#unavailable-content), the largest fedi instance). #### The burden of moderating I think (but pls correct me) that in general there are two important areas for improvement from moderators perspective: - Moderation is very time-consuming. - Moderation is somewhat of an unthankful, underappreciated job. It is time-consuming to monitor what happens on your server, to act timely on moderation request, answer questions, get informed about other instances that may have to be blocked. It is unthankful / underappreciated because your instance members take it for granted, and because you are often the bad guy when acting against someone who misbehaved. Moderation is often seen as unfair and your decisions fiercely argued. Due to these reasons instances are closed down, or are under-moderated and toxic behavior can fester. (There's much more to this, but I'll leave it here for now) ## Federating Moderation From the Mastodon docs: > Moderation in Mastodon is always applied locally, i.e. as seen from the particular server. An admin or moderator on one server cannot affect a user on another server, they can only affect the local copy on their own server. This is a good, logical model. After all, you only control your own instance(s). But what if the federation tasks that are bound to the instance got help from ActivityPub federation itself? Copying from [this post](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/improving-fediverse-culture-and-social-behavior/1397/5?u=aschrijver): The whole instance discovery / mapping of the Fediverse network can be federated. E.g.: - A new server is detected - Instance updates internal server list - Instance federates (`Announce`) the new server - Other instances update their server list - Domain blocklisting / allowlisting actions are announced (with reason) Then in addition to that Moderation Incidents can be collected as metrics and federated as soon as they occur: - User mutes / blocks, instance blocks (without PII, as it is the metric counts that are relevant) - Flags (federated after they are approved by admins, without PII) - Incidents may include more details (reason for blocking, topic e.g. 'misinformation') So a new instance pops up, and all across fedi people start blocking its users. There's probably something wrong with the instance that may warrant blocklisting. Instance admin goes to the server list, sees a large incident count for a particular server, clicks the entry and gets a more detailed report on the nature of said incident. Makes the decision whether to block the domain for their own instance or not. ## Delegated moderation When having **Federated Moderation** it may also be possible to _delegate moderation tasks_ to admins of other instances who are authorized to do so, or even have 'roaming moderators' that are not affiliated to any one instance. I have described this idea already, but from the perspective of Discourse forums having native federation capabilities. See [Discourse: Delegating Community Management](https://meta.discourse.org/t/community-has-no-boundary-discourse-as-a-fabric-ideation-brainstorm/174578/12?u=aschrijver). Why would you want to delegate moderation: - Temporarily, while looking for new mods and admins. - When an instance is under attack by trolls and the like, ask extra help - When there is a large influx of new users #### Moderation-as-a-Service _(Copied and extended from [this post](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/improving-fediverse-culture-and-social-behavior/1397/8?u=aschrijver))_ But this extension to the Moderation model goes further.. we can have Moderation-as-a-Service. Experienced moderators and admins gain reputation and trust. They can offer their services, and can be rewarded for the work they do (e.g. via Donations, or otherwise). They may state their available time and timeslots in which they are available, so I could invoke their service and provide 24/7 monitoring of my instance. The Reputation model of available moderators might even be federated. So I can see history of their work, satisfaction level / review by others, amount of time spent / no. of Incidents handled, etc. All of this could be intrinsic part of the fabric of the Fediverse, and extend across different application types. There would be much more visibility to the under-appreciated task of the moderator, and as the model matures more features can be added e.g. in the form of support for Moderation Policies. Like their Code of Conduct different instances would like different governance models (think democratic voting mechanisms, or [Sortition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition). See also [What would a fediverse “governance” body look like?](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/what-would-a-fediverse-governance-body-look-like/1497)). **Note**: _Highly recommend_ to also check the toot thread about this post, as many people have great insights there: https://mastodon.social/web/statuses/106059921223198405

Hi there fellow fedizen, it is great to see you in this community 😊 Why did I create this space, you ask? Well, first of all because Lemmy rocks of course, and I wanted to be part of the fun. ### [Fediverse Futures: Visions & Dreams](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fediverse-futures-visions-dreams-feedback-wanted/1238) This community will focus on the future of the fediverse mostly. Because our potential is humongous and remains largely untapped. Fedi has come a long way, and has explored 'doing social media differently'. Free, libre and open software, a great online culture, tremendous diversity and wonderful people. It is time to go beyond microblogging and - like Lemmy and other [splendid apps](https://git.feneas.org/feneas/fediverse/-/wikis/watchlist-for-activitypub-apps) - go way further in the realm of possiblities. The dream of Fediverse Futures is ... ## "Social Media Reimagined" Yeah, that's right. We should _go wild_ in exploring what is possible. Dream our most beautiful dreams, and cooperatively work on materializing them. Make them real. In this space we'll brainstorm and ideate, letting our imagination run free. This community is a companion to [Fediverse Futures](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/c/fediversity/fediverse-futures/58) that exists at [SocialHub](https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks). This community is non-technical at heart. It is for everyone dreaming fedi dreams. Visionary ideas discussed here, can be taken further on the SocialHub forum to be elaborated and further flesh them out with more technical discussion.

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    This is a companion to Fediverse Futures on Social Coding to elaborate the Fediverse from high-level, non-technical perspectives, brainstorming our visions and dreams.

    We need a more holistic approach to fedi development and evolution. We need product designers, graphics artists, UX / UI / Interaction designers, futurists and visionaries to join the dev folks. Everyone is encouraged to join here and enrich our views on what Fediverse can be with diverse and different viewpoints, and to stimulate brainstorming, creativity, thinking out-of-the-box and crazy, wild ideas.

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